Moving day... off to: marshallgoff.com/blog
I'll move historical posts over there. I'm not sure I've got comments set up right, but I'll be accepting them somehow.
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marshallgoff.com/blog/.
I can't entirely rule out the possibility that you might be interested in something I write...
I feel myself being sucked in to comment here, since I’ve played Open and Mixed at Nationals. Many people establish the boundaries of “elite” ultimate as Nationals play, which I think is reasonable, but not entirely correct. Full disclosure: I’ve never contended in Open - once missing quarters by only one point – and I have contended in Mixed – choking in Semi’s. Read into that as you will.
This whole discussion started with the question of whether the World Games team should be Coed. I don’t care. Too many things to care about and I can’t get worked up over that one. The reason is simple: I don’t know what importance to ascribe to Ultimate’s participation at the Games. That said, if the goal is simply to showcase the highest-level Ultimate, then it should be Open.
The rationale for that is also pretty simple in my mind. First, the skill level is at least as high in Open as any other division. Second, the pure athleticism is greater from top to bottom. Those two things are enough.
This shouldn’t minimize women’s athleticism. As an aside, Jon Wertheim, SI's senior tennis writer, occasionally gets asked in his online mailbag how the top women tennis players would fare against men. I can't find it to quote right now, but his response typically goes something like: "the top women wouldn't stand a chance against any man in the top 150, but that doesn't take anything away from their game". It's a good thought, and could be well applied to Women's vs. Men's Ultimate.
Note also that this doesn’t require any analysis of whether the sport’s best players play Open or Women’s over Mixed. As reflected in the World Games team roster, most of the absolute top individual players do play Open and Women’s. Though I think Mixed has come a long way, Open and Women are where the most respected competition still is. However, it would be too strong to suggest that there aren’t elite players in Mixed. Many of the people on Mixed teams at Nationals last year would have been capable of contributing to Open and Women’s teams. The problem is that there are also a lot of players in Mixed who would never make the roster on an elite Open or Women’s team, and that mix of talents engenders the general disrespect of some of those other teams.
The question seems to be what level of respect that Mixed deserves. Teams comprising elite open and women players can often beat Mixed teams at summer events. Further, for observers in the NE (like our blogging buddies Jim & Al) have been faced for years with Mixed ultimate that proved mediocre on the grand stage. [Only once before last year had a NE Mixed team cracked the quarters, where they were an also-ran.]
Mixed has come a long way and continues to grow in quality. Playing Mixed isn’t any longer a free road to Nationals for any team with a little bit of talent. Of course, it’s not deep top to bottom yet, but it’s not like the number 16 women’s team at Nationals stands a chance at beating the number 2 team, either.